Today in the afternoon I went to Berkeley to meet Jaron Lanier. We were mainly talking about the internet and its impact on the society (the entire interview will be available soon). And of course the iPhone was part of the story ... Jaron held a very interesting view of Apple, a view I honestly never thought about.

I apologize for the poor audio quality; we were sitting in a courtyard cafe among many others - as you can hear easily. But anyhow, it is worth listening!

Yes, there is an apple sign on the computer;-))

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